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Post by jialingjin on Sept 25, 2006 22:53:06 GMT -5
It's like I keep telling the Fire Nation applicants.. The Fire Nation thinks they are the Good guys! They think that they are destined to rule the world. Kinda like how the United States felt it was their destiny to reach from Atlantic to Pacific. Ever hear of the Manfiest Destiny? Yeah.. it was the driving force behind the expansion of the US and the relocation and extermination of various native cultures.
The Children are raised to believe this. It's like brainwashing.. it's like how we United States children are raised to believe Britian was bad during the Revolutionary War. English Children learn the opposite!
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Post by gandalan on Sept 26, 2006 6:42:01 GMT -5
It's like I keep telling the Fire Nation applicants.. The Fire Nation thinks they are the Good guys! They think that they are destined to rule the world. Kinda like how the United States felt it was their destiny to reach from Atlantic to Pacific. Ever hear of the Manfiest Destiny? Yeah.. it was the driving force behind the expansion of the US and the relocation and extermination of various native cultures. The Children are raised to believe this. It's like brainwashing.. it's like how we United States children are raised to believe Britian was bad during the Revolutionary War. English Children learn the opposite! Yeah, see, back then, in the Boston Tea Party, WE were the terrorists. ;D WHOO! GO TERRORISM! ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by naru on Sept 26, 2006 7:37:45 GMT -5
EXACTLY what im saying
btw we weren't terrorists as much as rebels but you have a point nowadays though we are all very individual due to immagration and all of our freedoms so the only real brainwashing I can think of right now is that the USA is the best which tecnically isn't quite proven
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Post by aden on Sept 26, 2006 9:30:51 GMT -5
"The best" is kind of a vague term, but in terms of actual wealth, industrial, and military power, there's not really anything that comes close to America. You can argue culture and national ethics til the cows come home, but America is still the most powerful nation on the planet.
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Post by jialingjin on Sept 26, 2006 10:01:53 GMT -5
EXACTLY what im saying btw we weren't terrorists as much as rebels but you have a point nowadays though we are all very individual due to immagration and all of our freedoms so the only real brainwashing I can think of right now is that the USA is the best which tecnically isn't quite proven Naru, terrorists are often rebels and vice versa. Ever hear of the IRA? The Irish Republican Army? They are fighting for Ireland's independance from Britian if I am correct. They are often considered terroristis.. but aren't they rebels too? And yes, I am the kind of person who will defend Islamic terrorists on the grounds that they are rebels. |
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Post by jp on Sept 26, 2006 11:32:30 GMT -5
"The best" is kind of a vague term, but in terms of actual wealth, industrial, and military power, there's not really anything that comes close to America. You can argue culture and national ethics til the cows come home, but America is still the most powerful nation on the planet. China could declare the US bankrupt, if they demanded that the debts were paid. At least in the Netherlands the wealth per citizen is a lot higher than in the US and I think it's higher in whole of Europe. I wonder what you're referring to with industrial, but very few american products are sold in Europe. Germany has a notable industrie, however a lot more is produced China and Japan. I'll take your word they are the leading ones on military power, however don't underestimate other countries, the US likes to show they have something and hollywood also gives you the impression that the US has all the special and uber equipment. The United States might have the most political influence at the moment, however it's far from the leading country on the subjects you mentioned. That was my point about the US ;D And brainwashing always happends, maybe not on important subjects, not even hurtfull or completly different from the truth, but it always happends. To confirm Jialing's points, ask yourself, who would call himself a terrorist? You might do something out of personal gain once or twice, but when it comes to fighting you useally set yourself a greater goal. P.S. Ireland is indepand of Britain, only north Ireland isn't, which is also where the IRA was/is active. Now to get back on the subject, I'm not so sure a strong spirited person like Jet would become brainwashed by such forcefull persuasion, its quite clear for him what they want him to believe and what he has to resist. Also his hatred goes quite deep. |
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Post by jialingjin on Sept 26, 2006 12:18:45 GMT -5
Ah thank you for clarifiying that, Jiaro Sun  ! |
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Post by osan on Sept 28, 2006 15:56:00 GMT -5
Well, legally, if the government says you're a terrorist, then you're a terrorist, at least here in the USA. It doesn't matter if you're right, or if you're goal is pure, or even if you've committed any crimes. It's a very flexible word.
That said...
"Just... bear?"
Perfect.
Anyways, this was... englightening, I knew something had to be very wrong with BSS. I was surprised to see it still standing. I was also surprised that the Gaang couldn't use defending the outer wall as leverage in the city. The economic caste system was... inspired, to say the least.
I figure the season finale will feature the solar eclipse, and it won't be during a battle either, chances are just a few are going to assault the FN's camp during this sensitive time. Honestly, I see Zuko or Iroh or both joinng the Gaang full time for Book 3: Fire.
Of course, I also see Aang teaching airbending to others during Book 4, but, who am I, right?
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Post by aden on Sept 29, 2006 7:36:59 GMT -5
Of course, I also see Aang teaching airbending to others during Book 4, but, who am I, right? Assuming it goes past book three... wouldn't there have to be other airbenders before he can teach them? |
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Post by jp on Oct 2, 2006 8:17:27 GMT -5
Ah thank you for clarifiying that, Jiaro Sun ! hehe, kinda over did it, didn't I? And about that Aang couldn't teach airbending to others, I woudn't be so sure about it. He is the avatar you know, he also has spirit world powers. And the bending genetics theory does have a couple of flaws I believe, as in the fortune teller, there are identical twins of which one can earthbend and one can't. Also it's quite stranger that of all the women in the southern tribe none had the genetics to waterbend, quite slim chances. While the theory certainly works for RP sites, we can't be 100% sure about how the series handles it. |
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Post by aden on Oct 2, 2006 13:00:19 GMT -5
And about that Aang couldn't teach airbending to others, I woudn't be so sure about it. He is the avatar you know, he also has spirit world powers. And the bending genetics theory does have a couple of flaws I believe, as in the fortune teller, there are identical twins of which one can earthbend and one can't. Also it's quite stranger that of all the women in the southern tribe none had the genetics to waterbend, quite slim chances. While the theory certainly works for RP sites, we can't be 100% sure about how the series handles it. Don't forget, the South pole was completely devastated by war. There's a good chance that most benders were killed then since they'd be the primary defenders of their tribe, not to mention the chance that Sokka and Katara's tribe is only one of several scattered villages. The South Pole's a pretty big place to hide in, so there's a decent chance that there's more Southern Tribe villages with more benders. |
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