BSS Siege/Rebels/Kyoshis

[taka]

Jia and I were talking about how to get the Rebellion active in the BSS thing. We were going to have Taka/Yasu sent off to tell BSS about the eclipse (since Yasu would know about it) even though it won't particularly help the people there. Jia/Reed are sent along because they've gotten caught up in it all.

I proposed that at this point Taka/Yasu/Jia/Reed (some combination of them) get captured either en route or get caught telling somebody about it, and then they can RP with the other prisoners, the Kyoshi warriors. The ones who don't get caught can pass on the information, and then rescue the prisoners (mini plot during siege, perhaps) and the Rebels are then free to be a thorn in the side of the occupying FN, while Aang now has allies in the Kyoshi warriors (when/if he gets to BSS).

Is this an okay plan with everybody who would be involved?

[mulaqi]

Interesting, but knowledge of the eclipse is pretty muddy water. I'm not sure how widespread knowledge about the eclipse is in the Fire Nation. Obviously, the Firelord knows about it, and perhaps some of the higher ups in the military, but I don't think the population at large does. Remember that one scene in the DoBS special where Haru's father and his fighters encounter the group of Firebenders and one of them tries to bend? If guards of the Royal City don't know about it, I can't think that many people do.

The plan was actually to get the Gaang to the Spirit Library somehow, possibly via some OCs on the site, and then they'd head to BSS. I do, however, like the idea of getting OCs involved in the main plot as minor characters, and eventually it would be cool to have every group make an appearance. The Rebellion would probably fit in best when the Gaang heads to the Fire Nation, or is trying to get there. I know it's a ways off, but I think they could play a much more interesting role there.

That's just my opinion, though. The Eclipse thing could have used a bit more clarification from the writers, I think.

[gengoro]

This might be a little weird, but Gengoro is actually still in BSS. Is it possible that he could join the Rebellion as a sort of mercenary? I want to keep him busy with the only real occupation he knows. :3

[taka]

Well Muqali, we also tossed around other ideas of what Yasu could tell them about, but we only latched onto the Eclipse thing. Before I go to bed (I'm tired), I did notice that the whole city was deserted other than Firebenders, although they were also defending the front wall when the attackers got there. They might have known that the eclipse was coming, and simply did not know it had already happened. Maybe. I dunno. Too tired to think it out.

And also, the majority of the actual Rebellion (at least as OC's, currently) is in the EK, mainly because a lot of the strength of the Rebellion is outside of the FN (or so I understand from Yasu). I don't know what part they could play within the FN, although they might harbor the Avatar and co for a while if he needed to hide.

[mulaqi]

Yes, the city was deserted, but people can be told to leave somewhere without being told why, and the idea of someone just not noticing that the sun has been eclipsed by the moon is more than a little far fetched.

If you really wanted Yasu to go, the best idea I can come up with is simple diplomacy. Letting the Earth Kingdom know they exist and heading there to secure support and cooperation in the form of arms, funds and information. Then you could make it work if you. Again, though, I think the Rebellion would be better suited for a later role, but that's just me.

[Teiú]

Hi guys

Well... At Yasu's The Rebllion description she mention a secret advanced sect of The Rebellion in the Fire Nation (which it is kinda made real now). Could it be that The Rebellion has a spy inside the royal palace and get the Eclipse information from there? Anyway, it would be a possibility for getting the eclipse information (and to throw Teiú in the story too, hehe).

[yasu]

Alrighty then, sorry it took a while for me to notice this was here.

I think this is a great idea. When I made the Fire Nation sect at the capitol, I had first intended for there to be spies in the palace. Most probably servants and the such. Since Teiu is now a rebel in the Fire Nation, it could possibly mean that during a mission of some sort he got into the palace as a servant and overheard the rumors of an eclipse. Maybe, after some more thorough research (maybe in a library at the capitol or palace?), the eclipse becomes more in depth and Teiu sends a messenger hawk to the Rebel base in Tachi Dai.

That way, the Rebels find out about the eclipse and then Reed/Jia/Yasu/Taka are sent to BSS to tell the Earth King about it all.

But I also really like Mugali's idea. Maybe Taka's father gets orders from the head-hauncho to send a certain few to BSS to gather news, form allies, stuff like that. More diplomatic things. Because then, whoever needs to get captured could get captured (by Dai Li, or FN soldiers) during the siege and so on.

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Edit:
And because Gengoro is still in the BSS, he could see a struggle going on and, since he's a mercenary (that's right?) he might be able to try and help. Even though he doesn't really know the situation...but...yeah? Maybe?

I don't know, I'll have to think for that, but you're welcome to join the Rebellion, Gengoro!!

[taka]

I like both of Yasu's extensions to ideas. ;D

I don't know how she did that, but she came to the same conclusion I would have (after weeks) in seconds.

[gengoro]

Yay!!! I get to join the Rebellion without JOINING the Rebellion. Cool cool!

[Teiú]

Actually i intend to take Teiú to the EK since he is a deserter and the army have loads of lots on information on the firebender and this can put the sect in danger. He will meet the Lun Yang guys and then he will go to Hokage to take a ferry to EK.

Im saying this because if the line that will be followed is to Teiú deliver this message (trough a hawk or something i think it will be more reasonable if Teiú is already in the EK....

But well, im free to go into any other made plans for this plot...

[taka]

If it's something Teiu would know/find out, then it would make sense to send it on, and that would aid in the plot. I haven't seen Teiu's profile lately, so I don't know how close he is to that sort of information.

Muqali, you've been the voice of reason throughout this. Granted that I think the Rebellion in the EK should play only a small part in the canon scheme, and that the Rebellion in the FN should take on a bigger role, are there any holes in this plot you could poke for us? That way we can make this more realistic (for the Ava-verse anyway). If there aren't any/many/too many, are there any objections of putting this plan to action? Because I'm itching for something to happen. Taka's bored. XD

[mulaqi]

I like Yasu's second idea (the diplomacy one) and think it would work nicely. It's something you guys can just do on your own and get going any time.

For the spy thing to work, I think there would have to actually be a thread where a spy (Teiu or someone else) somehow finds out the information. There's a chance it could be pulled off, but it'd be tough. We're talking about an extremely high ranking somebody, maybe even Ozai himself, blabbing about possibly the biggest secret in the Fire Nation. Mentioning of an eclipse might be possible, but for that to be useful, you'd need the date. Unless it's Sgt. Skippy, I'm not thinking anyone that high ranking is stupid enough to mention that.

Like I said, the diplomacy idea fits both your needs as players and the needs of the characters/Rebellion, and it's really easy to pull off. That's still the one I'd go with.

[taka]

Right, that was what I was thinking. That way, Tasu/Jiaeed wouldn't even have to see the Aangang. Some combination of us would get caught, the others would rescue us and the Kyoshi Warriors, then we depart, and the Kyoshi Warriors are free to do whatever in BSS to help the Aangang. Thanks Muqali. ^_^

Where is Aden when you need him anyway? I've been trying to get to him to ask him about this, but he's never on. ><

[chamir]

I say leave the discovery of the eclipse's effects up to the GAang--and Tieu's Professor Aua character to stand in for Professor Zheng. Heck, we can go crazy and have Zuko and Iroh chase them into the Spirit Library at that. One loose end solved if it goes that way. =p

But from the looks of things knowledge of the eclipse's effects seem rather moot and it's even likely hardly any human other than Zhao, and whoever went with him to the library, even knows about the eclipse's power. And if more than that I don't think it's known to the population at large as Muqali said. Otherwise you'd think people in the Fire Nation episodes would have mentioned it in some way what an eclipse does to their firebenders beforehand.

I guess I could be for the idea of the Rebellion seeking a handout from BSS but it just begs for questions. Are they arriving ahead of the besieging FN forces or aftering them? Will they spot the FN forces and try to warn the general of the outer wall? Will they try to sabotage, stall or keep track of the incoming FN forces? If they're inside of the city instead how are Long Feng and the Dai Li supposed to react to their presence? Is their operation to seek aid supposed to end in success or failure?

And so those that don't know, Gengoro is more FN deserter than mercenary.

And there you have my input for the moment.

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While we're talking about the siege--and to get input from others in this thread--with the Operation: Interception thread pretty much over should we have a marching thread? Something to tie the FN characters going to BSS and the Kyoshi Warriors over while we wait for everyone else to hopefully gets into place, maybe the GAang arriving a bit late even.

[mulaqi]

chamir said:

While we're talking about the siege--and to get input from others in this thread--with the Operation: Interception thread pretty much over should we have a marching thread? Something to tie the FN characters going to BSS and the Kyoshi Warriors over while we wait for everyone else to hopefully gets into place, maybe the GAang arriving a bit late even.

I'd say we should have a thread comprising the preparation of the army, then a march, and then probably camping a good distance away from the walls. We could hold it there as a standoff for a long time, perhaps using the excuse of them waiting for the Drill or for more troops to arrive or something if we need to.

The Gaang does have some catching up to do, but we're moving along. Once we get out of the Omashu thread, we're planning a thread in the Si Wong/Spirit Library, and then they'll head to BSS. (Teiu: we'll talk about this in the c-box when you get the chance).

Of course, I also kind of like the idea of the Gaang arriving in the middle of siege, too. Could be fun.