An example of Mary-Sueism

[jialingjin]

firebending.. molding clay.. in the middle of a earth kingdom town.

[kura]

An RP of yours, I presume? I just wasn't sure of the connection to the conversation about hair dye...

[jialingjin]

Just two examples of stupidity I came across..

[raine]

jialingjin said:

NEWBS!

Lost Humanity01 [10:12 PM]: Evening.
RegalFlames [10:13 PM]: Hello
Lost Humanity01 [10:13 PM]: The name is Ezra.-Extends his hand.- Is there an Rp going on?
RegalFlames [10:14 PM]: ((Not right. We're really just discussing our bad run-ins with people who don't seem to get Avatar and how to RP it correctly.))
Lost Humanity01 [10:14 PM]: Ah.
Lost Humanity01 [10:14 PM]: I've never had a chance to get an rp going.
Lost Humanity01 [10:14 PM]: Avatar at least.
Lost Humanity01 [10:15 PM]: I picked up that you don't believe that someone can learn to bend more than one element?
RegalFlames [10:15 PM]: Sorry to hear that, Avatar RP is scarce on AOL that's for sure. I mostly stick with an Forum RPG
Lost Humanity01 [10:15 PM]: lol i noticed.
Lost Humanity01 [10:21 PM]: Lets discuss this in IM. ((In reference to a Hair-dye comment in the chatroom))
RegalFlames [10:21 PM]: Fine by me
Lost Humanity01 [10:21 PM]: So we dont lose patrons of the chat.
Lost Humanity01 [10:22 PM]: I understand you have learn't much in history. But I am saying the technology the fire nation uses is far more advanced for the setting of clothes and the society they use. If they allow that kind of technology why shouldn't hair dye be allowed?
RegalFlames [10:23 PM]: Well think about this. When the Industrial Revolution exploded in London.. was it considered far more advanced for the setting of clothes and the society? Yes. It was a new technology, it was strange.. it was mystifying and magical.
Lost Humanity01 [10:24 PM]: Mhmm.
RegalFlames [10:24 PM]: And Hair dye is not really a new technology, but rather an improvement. Wool can be dyed and has been for centuries. However, the human hair follice contains some of the largest amounts of pigment in the animal world.
RegalFlames [10:24 PM]: When you go from a darker color to a lighter color, as anyone in Avatar would have to.. you need to bleach it correct?
Lost Humanity01 [10:25 PM]: Unless there is some kind of natural chemical they could have found which has the same aspects.
Lost Humanity01 [10:25 PM]: And I am sure there is one.
RegalFlames [10:25 PM]: I'm not aware of anything other than cholrine.
Lost Humanity01 [10:25 PM]: Niether am I but I don't think of myself as an expert either.
Lost Humanity01 [10:25 PM]: I'm just saying hair can by dyed my regular dye.
Lost Humanity01 [10:26 PM]: It isn't as potent in the job but it works.
RegalFlames [10:26 PM]: Hair can be dyed by regular dye, I'm not denying that. I am denying the existance of any bleaching agent
Lost Humanity01 [10:26 PM]: I agree.
RegalFlames [10:27 PM]: Chlorine is found mostly in salts, and without proper methods, can not be seperated out. I doubt the ancient cultures of Asian had this.
Lost Humanity01 [10:27 PM]: From what I gathered you two were dicsussing the color Blue no?
RegalFlames [10:27 PM]: Nothing in Avatar really involves anything on the chemical level. Even the Fire Nation.. they don't understand how fire works chemically.. just that it causes metals to seperate and become refined.
Blue was an example because at the RP forum I Moderator for we've received quite a few young girls wanting baby blue hair for their characters
Lost Humanity01 [10:28 PM]: OH
Lost Humanity01 [10:28 PM]: Baby blue.
Lost Humanity01 [10:28 PM]: xD
Lost Humanity01 [10:28 PM]: I was argueing on the darker tents like green.
Lost Humanity01 [10:28 PM]: and dark blue.
Lost Humanity01 [10:28 PM]: Any hair can be tinted those colors.
RegalFlames [10:29 PM]: Not Black hair. Not easily.
RegalFlames [10:29 PM]: And Not without the hair losing the color quickly
Lost Humanity01 [10:29 PM]: -Shrugs.- Quality isnt my point I'm just saying it CAN be done.
Lost Humanity01 [10:29 PM]: Not that is was.
RegalFlames [10:29 PM]: It can, but not the point where someone's hair would be green for days on end.
Lost Humanity01 [10:30 PM]: No of course not, you would have to reapply the agent.
RegalFlames [10:30 PM]: Black hair does not hold color well, not at all.
Lost Humanity01 [10:30 PM]: I know.
Lost Humanity01 [10:37 PM]: Obviously your old enough to be in college, how old are you?
RegalFlames [10:37 PM]: I keep my personal information a secret, if you understand.
Lost Humanity01 [10:38 PM]: I understand ^^
RegalFlames [10:39 PM]: As for where I get my knowledge.. I attribute it to my upbringing, a desire to understand history and technology, a variety of classes and the wonder that is Wikipedia.
Lost Humanity01 [10:39 PM]: lol

Seta Mijoku: Working in his shop, or rather, the front patio-like face of the shop, the young Firebender would work his bending skills in making the statuette before the crowd of customers. Tenshen Ci would focus on the chunk of clay as he
Seta Mijoku: molded it with both his hands and Firebending, using a very fluid movement akin to a Waterbender's fighting style. Instead of using the Northern Shaolin style of Firebending, Tenshen used a mix of Tai Chi and Jeet Kun Do for both
Seta Mijoku: fluidity and unpredictability in his movements. Hazel eyes would be narrowed as he finally finished his piece of art, having shaped the piece of clay into a statuette of a priest. When he was done, the little crowd applauded the
Seta Mijoku: show he had given them, before the customer who asked for the piece came forward and purchased it, as Tenshen got another piece of semi-wet clay to make another piece.

Can't you dye your hair with lime(not the fruit the stone powder)? My dad told me in ireland they used to bleach their hair with it''>>

[aden]

I always thought this guy's blue hair kinda opened up the possibility of hair dye... Then again he looks kinda old and his hair might have turned gray enough for the dye to become more noticeable.

[jialingjin]

*Grabs Aden and clamps a hand over his mouth* Shhh! Don't let the sues know! Hell! I don't even tell them that if someone's old, and their hair is light.. that it could be dyed by the dyes they would have had back then!

[jialingjin]

I've never heard of that Raine. I'm sure it's possiblity and perhaps we should look into it.. or people who want to bleach their hair should look into it. I'm always saying.. if someone can prove it's possible in a profile.. then they can have it by my standards :3

[kura]

jialingjin said:

firebending.. molding clay.. in the middle of a earth kingdom town.

Oh wow, how is it that I didn't notice it was a firebender in the Earth Kingdom? Well, I feel stupid ^^;

[ryota]

I'm pretty sure henna would be a potent dye, since its active component bonds with keratin, and it can be mixed with other colors.

Also, I know some Sudanese tribes use...cow urine...as a hair bleaching agent of sorts, dying their hair a reddish-orange color. I doubt anyone here would go to these lengths for their OC to have such a hair color, but they're possibilities, anyhow.

[taka]

...Ewwww...

[choji]

Accually Raine from my studies in Celt culture, they spike their hair with lime, and ran nude into battle ;D

[kura]

ryota said:

I'm pretty sure henna would be a potent dye, since its active component bonds with keratin, and it can be mixed with other colors.

Also, I know some Sudanese tribes use...cow urine...as a hair bleaching agent of sorts, dying their hair a reddish-orange color. I doubt anyone here would go to these lengths for their OC to have such a hair color, but they're possibilities, anyhow.

Okay... I've heard of urine being used to dye clothes, but hair?

[jialingjin]

and my point is.. this is all Logical! Using Lime? GREAT! Using cow urine? GREAT! But have we had an applicant actually give us a process like this? I don't believe so...

[firenationprincess]

...And why would a character want to dye their hair? Even just two hundred years ago if you had bright blue hair you were likely to be killed as a witch, nevermind in Ancient Asia. Unless the sue LIKES attracting stares and having people slowly back away from them...

[yumi]

Heh, good point.